At 19 I was still a self-centered, bitter, feminist and femcel young woman. Then, with the obsessive attention that I began to pay to your harsher writings, I began to look inside from my still selfish and poorly focused desire to be protected by a man. Today at 26, through God and with his infinite mercy, I actively seek to have the opportunity to inspire and serve a man for the rest of my life, to merge my soul with his with the fierceness that you describe in this text and if it is God's will, to have as many babies as I can.
You are a great guy and I personally appreciate your presence on the Internet, for being the first step towards a better life through a brutal tearing away from my old self. Humanity always benefits from people who love and defend the truth with all the passion in their veins. God bless you.
I am glad you overcame the ideological perversity of feminism, and the type of psychic prison it represents by keeping you antagonistic and miserable, and thus spiritually locked out from knowing, experiencing, and building from true love.
I'm sure it was not easy. It takes a certain strength to wrestle with yourself, and not succumb to the conveniently provided answers of why nothing is your fault, and how another group or the very structure of society itself is to blame, but to instead, really dig deep, and focus on what you *DO* have power over and can change, by asking yourself "what is it that I truly want, and how can I give to the world in a way that will increase the chances it is given to me?"
I, for one, am glad, without trying to being hyperbolic, that you have "been saved" in that way. Whatever beauty you manage to live and create with whoever you manage to create it with will surely be deeply thankful for that too.
Thank you for your kind words, they are appreciated.
This is a great follow up to To Merge Is To Possess. That piece calibrated the foundation for what relationships can be. Reading it was like an kino film, it resonated in my thoughts for days.
Now when I observe couples in public I find so much incoherence. In less than a minute it feels like I’ve eclipsed their entire relationship. I imagine the cycle of their crude emotions as they are both repelled and attracted to each other like thoughtless charged particles (except much simpler than quantum physics). There is a refreshed beauty too. Some couples have manifested interpersonal utopia.
I mentioned TMITP to a few women. One stuck around since she thought it was remarkable to have mentioned such a deep subject. Most disappeared even after showing initial interest, which I interpret more as a fear of revealing themselves than deflating any romanticism. But maybe I’m lying to myself. Do you think discussing these topics with women is best avoided so the “4th wall” remains intact?
The apex women you’ve elegantly described are a marvel.
I can’t wait to hear the follow up to this - there is so much to say about being the man these apex woman are captivated by. Cheers dude!
For many years I did precisely that. I am now walking the tightrope of writing for both. I actually have a very actionable and nuanced piece for men in the works that I am sure you will find very useful and relatable. But yes, if you want *only* that kind of content, then you will be disappointed because I will not confine myself to that sole lane of artistic expression. Just as my female readers have to endure some of my harsher pieces, my male readers will have to endure some of my softer pieces. This is the price I pay for non-specialisation, but I believe integral to my growth as a thinker and writer.
I appreciate your honesty. For many years you did, and I have been a follower all along. I still have your audiobook and your "Narrated Twitter Archives". I also recently became a yearly subscriber of The Sovereign Citadel. But apparently in vain, as it seems you have become precisely what you warned us about, and predictably you now call it evolution. Well, at least it was great while it lasted. Personally, I benefited greatly from the knowledge you provided, so, being grateful is the least I can do. I don’t regret my financial support, just the content. Thanks, and best of luck to you.
I think you will be pleasantly surprised by what I am yet to produce. I do not intend to stay in any one narrow lane.
And yes, I can see how men who predominantly identify with the red pill worldview would not appreciate this kind of content and how unfavourably they would view it.
It’s not something they can relate to. They will say it is delusional, blue pill and simping. I understand the red pill fully - all its beliefs, arguments etc. And the red pill is sort of like a proto religion - it contains many valuable kernels of truth, but those truths get used to create this fatalist kind of worldview that men use to protect themselves from disappointment.
And basically, if you have any sort of appreciation for the feminine or eros, or speak too positively about them, then “you’re a simp”.
I’m not going to call it a cult, because it isn’t, and I’m not going to say it’s purely delusional cope, because there are many valuable nuggets of truth within it - but truth is, men definitely overcorrect with it.
As in, if you fully go down the red pill rabbit hole, you will end up believing women are essentially worthless and not capable of basic human decency, which sadly, due to a culture of narcissistic entitlement driven by the collapse of the family via feminism, and the subsequent bad parenting and irreligiosity that gives rise to, it’s easy to confirm that bias by encountering a lot of insufferable women (truth: the average western woman is not marriageable, and that’s incredibly sad).
Assuming you haven’t “gone your own way” (which you may well have, which means you definitely wouldn’t want to read this sort of thing) then that’s definitely not a healthy model to enter a marriage/relationship/start a family with. Like you quite literally cannot create something with someone you don’t even like or trust. That is just a non-starter.
So with the red pill, you have to separate the good from the bad, and not make it your entire worldview/governing perspective.
The top podcasts in the space are literally men talking to double digit IQ hookers and dunking on them for clicks. How is a hooker and her moronic coping representative of women in general? It is something of a circus at this point, and that’s why I parted ways from the space a long time ago.
Now are women lower truth preference than men in general? Yes. Because they are more neurotic, and less rational. Am I afraid to say that? No. Does that mean I think women should be treated worse? No, I think it means they require much firmer discipline and guidance - to effectively be held accountable, rather than simply concluding “it’s always my fault as a man” (which I think is bullshit, although it can be a useful mental shortcut when trying to empower yourself)
Adages like “she’s not yours, it’s just your turn” (touted by a man who has been married for decades no less - so I guess he is having a very long turn indeed) are just swallowed emptily without real criticism or proper analysis or argumentation. Why? Because we’ve all been rejected/abandoned and can relate to women hurting us. So you tell men that, and they think, oh, it’s not really my fault, it never could have lasted anyway. So much for everything being your fault right, because it was “just” your turn.
I don’t “not believe” the things I used to say, I still think a lot of it is very valid. My evolution is I have transcended that space and the limitations of its worldview. You are free to believe otherwise, and see it as a regression because it is still your preference, and on that point, we can agree to disagree. If you are more open minded, you can actually enter this essay into an AI and say “reverse engineer this to find the qualities of the woman he describes, then infer what type of woman is capable of this - eg: IQ, big 5 traits etc, and what the highest probability method for meeting her is” or some variation thereof.
Even when the content is not aimed primarily at you (I am literally describing muse psychology here - and these women are extremely rare - so I actually do not expect people to relate to this) there is something you can take from it if you are not so instinctively revulsed you immediately dismiss it.
Red pillers don’t mind if the content is feminine centric, so long as it is critical and doesn’t paint them in a good light. I am still very much capable of dissecting women in a ruthless way. And I don’t mind improving older work that has done that, and posting it here.
The point is, I’m not “on a side” because I only care about the truth irrespective of how it makes one gender look (be that good or bad - in reality, both are true, and what you choose to focus on reveals your own biases and preferences). I genuinely believe what I posted here, which is why I posted it. You can not relate to that and think it’s delusion, and you’re welcome to, but if you’ve read me for years and you know what my work is like and have a feel for the type of thinker that I am, you can also ask yourself did this guy just suddenly lose his mind, or does he actually know something?
And yes, I truly have evolved. I understand if you think that is “cope” or “selling out” or “going blue pill” but look at the space - those guys are touting the same old crap after a decade plus, the praxeology is stale, and the scene is full of grifters and performative nonsense. It suffered from its own success. I actually feel bad for guys today, because the signal to noise was way better in the early 2010’s than it is now.
I am very much interested in developing a more comprehensive philosophy rooted in my observations and understandings of my collective knowledge and experience up until this point. I really am not interested in hearing for the 1,800th time how there is no point in doing anything because hypergamy. Hypergamy is used as an explanation for everything, and frankly it is just sloppy and wrong and gives men an excuse not to bother “because if you’re not top 20%, then what’s the point?”
Women are, in fact, actually capable of loyalty - but you have to imprint them hard enough (red pill concept: alpha widow minus the widow) - and that could be its own essay (which you would probably like, assuming you haven’t written off women entirely, which is your prerogative).
I also intend to improve many of my older pieces, and republish them here, which I’m sure you’ll enjoy. I am also still very much interested in Machiavellianism, anthropology, evolutionary and Jungian psychology, theology, philosophy etc. Things I’m sure you’ll find interesting and useful and not too congratulatory towards the feminine. But that doesn’t mean I won’t write pieces like this either from time to time, and you can skip over those if you like. And also, if you read it fully and carefully, which you may have not - I explicitly emphasise how most women are not like this - I am critical of women within this piece for not meeting this standard (but am also showing them what is possible by modelling it for them). I suspect due to the aesthetic and embellished poetics, that wasn’t critical enough for you so “didn’t come off that way”.
The evolution is I am not just writing for young men anymore, but young women too. I was asked for years to write “tell your daughter this” content, and I never felt/thought/believed I could do a good job in that capacity. But now, finally, I can. I understand that will annoy older followers who did not sign-up for that, but it is what it is. I suppose it’s like a musician or something, you like his original albums, he changed things up and now you think he’s garbage, but from time to time he drops something in the old style and you think it’s fire. I guess it’s a similar thing here.
I just want to emphasise: I am not specifically having a go at you here - merely stating my position for those such as yourself who are intolerant of this kind of content (because I suspect you are not the only one)
All of that being said, I want to thank you for supporting my work over the years, and I’m glad you’ve benefited from it, because after all, the entire reason I started this in the first place was because I wanted men to benefit from the the fatherly wisdom I never got when I was younger, I’ve just expanded my vision to include women too - and helping them doesn’t mean I’m uninterested in helping you.
Thanks for your long and insightful answer. I now understand your position better. This seems to me like a Frankensteinian attempt at reconciling the irreconcilable, but I'm looking forward to reading those pieces that may still be my alley.
It is a pleasure. And as for reconciling the irreconcilable... think of it in terms of the Aristotelian golden mean (which is truly a great conceptual framework that can be overlayed onto so many things).
There is a very narrow middle path (the golden mean) which is neither excessive nor insufficient in that it is doesn’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, nor claim the bathwater is in fact, ambrosia (the Grecian nectar of the Gods).
If you are to master a thing, you must first understand it. The same is true of women (as a general nature) and a specific woman (her individual makeup layered on top of that nature, and to which degree she embodies the general of the category classification from which she derives).
In simple language: we are threading the needle. Traditional societies relied on a lot of social shame and external regulation (family surveillance, community pressure, religious self-monitoring) to keep couples morally accountable, objectively aligned and bound. That social infrastructure is effectively gone now (both for better and for worse), meaning we as men have our work cut out for ourselves in that we have to be far more cerebral and higher functioning than our ancestors did to compensate for the social breakdown they did not have to live under. Think of it as a type of selection pressure.
But what is the alternative? Roll over and die? I don’t think we can do that.
Thank you for answering his reply so thoroughly. I’d been away from your work for a bit, came back to it only to find this seemingly newfangled feminine-centric bent….I thought I’d gone crazy and was misremembering your red-pilled, Machiavellian brilliance. I await your championing of the rarified air of the golden mean. 🤝🏻
He can write whatever he wants , he's not your slave back off. All his accounts already full of that knowledge and this essay is one direct demonstration to bring something to reality: A beautiful soulful relationship between both sexes
People reading everything for free but still have guts to act ungrateful and try to dictate the author to do what they want which opposite of sovereignity what this whole account about.
I dont know if , as a man, if I could ever match her energy. I have this type of woman….. She always tells me she admires a “Morticia & Gomez” (Addams family) type of love . I wish I could see her the way she sees me
When I was reading about how muses act within your article, I couldn't help but immediately cast my mind to the role that Lady Macbeth played in Macbeth's life and she was that figure for him. What do you feel Lady Macbeth could have done differently to have prevented the tragedy that would unfold?
At 19 I was still a self-centered, bitter, feminist and femcel young woman. Then, with the obsessive attention that I began to pay to your harsher writings, I began to look inside from my still selfish and poorly focused desire to be protected by a man. Today at 26, through God and with his infinite mercy, I actively seek to have the opportunity to inspire and serve a man for the rest of my life, to merge my soul with his with the fierceness that you describe in this text and if it is God's will, to have as many babies as I can.
You are a great guy and I personally appreciate your presence on the Internet, for being the first step towards a better life through a brutal tearing away from my old self. Humanity always benefits from people who love and defend the truth with all the passion in their veins. God bless you.
I am glad you overcame the ideological perversity of feminism, and the type of psychic prison it represents by keeping you antagonistic and miserable, and thus spiritually locked out from knowing, experiencing, and building from true love.
I'm sure it was not easy. It takes a certain strength to wrestle with yourself, and not succumb to the conveniently provided answers of why nothing is your fault, and how another group or the very structure of society itself is to blame, but to instead, really dig deep, and focus on what you *DO* have power over and can change, by asking yourself "what is it that I truly want, and how can I give to the world in a way that will increase the chances it is given to me?"
I, for one, am glad, without trying to being hyperbolic, that you have "been saved" in that way. Whatever beauty you manage to live and create with whoever you manage to create it with will surely be deeply thankful for that too.
Thank you for your kind words, they are appreciated.
This is a great follow up to To Merge Is To Possess. That piece calibrated the foundation for what relationships can be. Reading it was like an kino film, it resonated in my thoughts for days.
Now when I observe couples in public I find so much incoherence. In less than a minute it feels like I’ve eclipsed their entire relationship. I imagine the cycle of their crude emotions as they are both repelled and attracted to each other like thoughtless charged particles (except much simpler than quantum physics). There is a refreshed beauty too. Some couples have manifested interpersonal utopia.
I mentioned TMITP to a few women. One stuck around since she thought it was remarkable to have mentioned such a deep subject. Most disappeared even after showing initial interest, which I interpret more as a fear of revealing themselves than deflating any romanticism. But maybe I’m lying to myself. Do you think discussing these topics with women is best avoided so the “4th wall” remains intact?
The apex women you’ve elegantly described are a marvel.
I can’t wait to hear the follow up to this - there is so much to say about being the man these apex woman are captivated by. Cheers dude!
Thank you for this.
thank you for this!
Beautiful
so lucky to possess such love!
Disappointed in this women-centric content.
You should provide thoughts that are useful for men to build themselves. Not that useless obsession with the opposite sex.
For many years I did precisely that. I am now walking the tightrope of writing for both. I actually have a very actionable and nuanced piece for men in the works that I am sure you will find very useful and relatable. But yes, if you want *only* that kind of content, then you will be disappointed because I will not confine myself to that sole lane of artistic expression. Just as my female readers have to endure some of my harsher pieces, my male readers will have to endure some of my softer pieces. This is the price I pay for non-specialisation, but I believe integral to my growth as a thinker and writer.
I appreciate your honesty. For many years you did, and I have been a follower all along. I still have your audiobook and your "Narrated Twitter Archives". I also recently became a yearly subscriber of The Sovereign Citadel. But apparently in vain, as it seems you have become precisely what you warned us about, and predictably you now call it evolution. Well, at least it was great while it lasted. Personally, I benefited greatly from the knowledge you provided, so, being grateful is the least I can do. I don’t regret my financial support, just the content. Thanks, and best of luck to you.
I think you will be pleasantly surprised by what I am yet to produce. I do not intend to stay in any one narrow lane.
And yes, I can see how men who predominantly identify with the red pill worldview would not appreciate this kind of content and how unfavourably they would view it.
It’s not something they can relate to. They will say it is delusional, blue pill and simping. I understand the red pill fully - all its beliefs, arguments etc. And the red pill is sort of like a proto religion - it contains many valuable kernels of truth, but those truths get used to create this fatalist kind of worldview that men use to protect themselves from disappointment.
And basically, if you have any sort of appreciation for the feminine or eros, or speak too positively about them, then “you’re a simp”.
I’m not going to call it a cult, because it isn’t, and I’m not going to say it’s purely delusional cope, because there are many valuable nuggets of truth within it - but truth is, men definitely overcorrect with it.
As in, if you fully go down the red pill rabbit hole, you will end up believing women are essentially worthless and not capable of basic human decency, which sadly, due to a culture of narcissistic entitlement driven by the collapse of the family via feminism, and the subsequent bad parenting and irreligiosity that gives rise to, it’s easy to confirm that bias by encountering a lot of insufferable women (truth: the average western woman is not marriageable, and that’s incredibly sad).
Assuming you haven’t “gone your own way” (which you may well have, which means you definitely wouldn’t want to read this sort of thing) then that’s definitely not a healthy model to enter a marriage/relationship/start a family with. Like you quite literally cannot create something with someone you don’t even like or trust. That is just a non-starter.
So with the red pill, you have to separate the good from the bad, and not make it your entire worldview/governing perspective.
The top podcasts in the space are literally men talking to double digit IQ hookers and dunking on them for clicks. How is a hooker and her moronic coping representative of women in general? It is something of a circus at this point, and that’s why I parted ways from the space a long time ago.
Now are women lower truth preference than men in general? Yes. Because they are more neurotic, and less rational. Am I afraid to say that? No. Does that mean I think women should be treated worse? No, I think it means they require much firmer discipline and guidance - to effectively be held accountable, rather than simply concluding “it’s always my fault as a man” (which I think is bullshit, although it can be a useful mental shortcut when trying to empower yourself)
Adages like “she’s not yours, it’s just your turn” (touted by a man who has been married for decades no less - so I guess he is having a very long turn indeed) are just swallowed emptily without real criticism or proper analysis or argumentation. Why? Because we’ve all been rejected/abandoned and can relate to women hurting us. So you tell men that, and they think, oh, it’s not really my fault, it never could have lasted anyway. So much for everything being your fault right, because it was “just” your turn.
I don’t “not believe” the things I used to say, I still think a lot of it is very valid. My evolution is I have transcended that space and the limitations of its worldview. You are free to believe otherwise, and see it as a regression because it is still your preference, and on that point, we can agree to disagree. If you are more open minded, you can actually enter this essay into an AI and say “reverse engineer this to find the qualities of the woman he describes, then infer what type of woman is capable of this - eg: IQ, big 5 traits etc, and what the highest probability method for meeting her is” or some variation thereof.
Even when the content is not aimed primarily at you (I am literally describing muse psychology here - and these women are extremely rare - so I actually do not expect people to relate to this) there is something you can take from it if you are not so instinctively revulsed you immediately dismiss it.
Red pillers don’t mind if the content is feminine centric, so long as it is critical and doesn’t paint them in a good light. I am still very much capable of dissecting women in a ruthless way. And I don’t mind improving older work that has done that, and posting it here.
The point is, I’m not “on a side” because I only care about the truth irrespective of how it makes one gender look (be that good or bad - in reality, both are true, and what you choose to focus on reveals your own biases and preferences). I genuinely believe what I posted here, which is why I posted it. You can not relate to that and think it’s delusion, and you’re welcome to, but if you’ve read me for years and you know what my work is like and have a feel for the type of thinker that I am, you can also ask yourself did this guy just suddenly lose his mind, or does he actually know something?
And yes, I truly have evolved. I understand if you think that is “cope” or “selling out” or “going blue pill” but look at the space - those guys are touting the same old crap after a decade plus, the praxeology is stale, and the scene is full of grifters and performative nonsense. It suffered from its own success. I actually feel bad for guys today, because the signal to noise was way better in the early 2010’s than it is now.
I am very much interested in developing a more comprehensive philosophy rooted in my observations and understandings of my collective knowledge and experience up until this point. I really am not interested in hearing for the 1,800th time how there is no point in doing anything because hypergamy. Hypergamy is used as an explanation for everything, and frankly it is just sloppy and wrong and gives men an excuse not to bother “because if you’re not top 20%, then what’s the point?”
Women are, in fact, actually capable of loyalty - but you have to imprint them hard enough (red pill concept: alpha widow minus the widow) - and that could be its own essay (which you would probably like, assuming you haven’t written off women entirely, which is your prerogative).
I also intend to improve many of my older pieces, and republish them here, which I’m sure you’ll enjoy. I am also still very much interested in Machiavellianism, anthropology, evolutionary and Jungian psychology, theology, philosophy etc. Things I’m sure you’ll find interesting and useful and not too congratulatory towards the feminine. But that doesn’t mean I won’t write pieces like this either from time to time, and you can skip over those if you like. And also, if you read it fully and carefully, which you may have not - I explicitly emphasise how most women are not like this - I am critical of women within this piece for not meeting this standard (but am also showing them what is possible by modelling it for them). I suspect due to the aesthetic and embellished poetics, that wasn’t critical enough for you so “didn’t come off that way”.
The evolution is I am not just writing for young men anymore, but young women too. I was asked for years to write “tell your daughter this” content, and I never felt/thought/believed I could do a good job in that capacity. But now, finally, I can. I understand that will annoy older followers who did not sign-up for that, but it is what it is. I suppose it’s like a musician or something, you like his original albums, he changed things up and now you think he’s garbage, but from time to time he drops something in the old style and you think it’s fire. I guess it’s a similar thing here.
I just want to emphasise: I am not specifically having a go at you here - merely stating my position for those such as yourself who are intolerant of this kind of content (because I suspect you are not the only one)
All of that being said, I want to thank you for supporting my work over the years, and I’m glad you’ve benefited from it, because after all, the entire reason I started this in the first place was because I wanted men to benefit from the the fatherly wisdom I never got when I was younger, I’ve just expanded my vision to include women too - and helping them doesn’t mean I’m uninterested in helping you.
-IM
Thanks for your long and insightful answer. I now understand your position better. This seems to me like a Frankensteinian attempt at reconciling the irreconcilable, but I'm looking forward to reading those pieces that may still be my alley.
It is a pleasure. And as for reconciling the irreconcilable... think of it in terms of the Aristotelian golden mean (which is truly a great conceptual framework that can be overlayed onto so many things).
There is a very narrow middle path (the golden mean) which is neither excessive nor insufficient in that it is doesn’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, nor claim the bathwater is in fact, ambrosia (the Grecian nectar of the Gods).
If you are to master a thing, you must first understand it. The same is true of women (as a general nature) and a specific woman (her individual makeup layered on top of that nature, and to which degree she embodies the general of the category classification from which she derives).
In simple language: we are threading the needle. Traditional societies relied on a lot of social shame and external regulation (family surveillance, community pressure, religious self-monitoring) to keep couples morally accountable, objectively aligned and bound. That social infrastructure is effectively gone now (both for better and for worse), meaning we as men have our work cut out for ourselves in that we have to be far more cerebral and higher functioning than our ancestors did to compensate for the social breakdown they did not have to live under. Think of it as a type of selection pressure.
But what is the alternative? Roll over and die? I don’t think we can do that.
Thank you for answering his reply so thoroughly. I’d been away from your work for a bit, came back to it only to find this seemingly newfangled feminine-centric bent….I thought I’d gone crazy and was misremembering your red-pilled, Machiavellian brilliance. I await your championing of the rarified air of the golden mean. 🤝🏻
He can write whatever he wants , he's not your slave back off. All his accounts already full of that knowledge and this essay is one direct demonstration to bring something to reality: A beautiful soulful relationship between both sexes
People reading everything for free but still have guts to act ungrateful and try to dictate the author to do what they want which opposite of sovereignity what this whole account about.
I dont know if , as a man, if I could ever match her energy. I have this type of woman….. She always tells me she admires a “Morticia & Gomez” (Addams family) type of love . I wish I could see her the way she sees me
When I was reading about how muses act within your article, I couldn't help but immediately cast my mind to the role that Lady Macbeth played in Macbeth's life and she was that figure for him. What do you feel Lady Macbeth could have done differently to have prevented the tragedy that would unfold?